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2/14/2023 1:23 pm  #1


 

2/14/2023 2:55 pm  #2


Re: New OL Coach!!

27 years old??? To coach a unit that lost 4 of 5 starters from last season?

I sure hope Lanning knows what he is doing because his hiring criteria defies logic / common sense and it is not even remotely close to the norm.

3 hires this off-season and collectively the P5 coaching experience might fill a thimble...and we are talking OC, CO-DC and OL positions🙄

At this point it is obvious he prefers, with a few exceptions, coaches around his age or younger and most importantly, lacking in experience at the level of their jobs.

Dillingham(age 32 WITH P5 coaching experiences) and Klemm(age 45) are replaced with a 33 and 27-year old who have almost zero P5 coaching experience to any measureable degree.

Bo Nix knows a library more of football offense than Stein and Terry combined.

 

2/14/2023 4:20 pm  #3


Re: New OL Coach!!

DucksReign wrote:

27 years old??? To coach a unit that lost 4 of 5 starters from last season?

I sure hope Lanning knows what he is doing because his hiring criteria defies logic / common sense and it is not even remotely close to the norm.

3 hires this off-season and collectively the P5 coaching experience might fill a thimble...and we are talking OC, CO-DC and OL positions🙄

At this point it is obvious he prefers, with a few exceptions, coaches around his age or younger and most importantly, lacking in experience at the level of their jobs.

Dillingham(age 32 WITH P5 coaching experiences) and Klemm(age 45) are replaced with a 33 and 27-year old who have almost zero P5 coaching experience to any measureable degree.

Bo Nix knows a library more of football offense than Stein and Terry combined.

He's one year younger than my oldest grandson
By now, we should know that Lanning likes the young up and coming coaches. He already has his coaching tree started with Dilly the HC of ASU. I know the players love this guy, he was here as a grad assistant , I believe. The O linemen are thrilled. I always say Trust The Coaches.
 

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2/14/2023 6:53 pm  #4


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"Up and coming?"😂😂😂

How about "just starting their career?"

Maybe that helps explain why in Lanning's 14 months on the job around 40 players have transferred out of the program.

 

2/14/2023 9:32 pm  #5


Re: New OL Coach!!

DucksReign wrote:

27 years old??? To coach a unit that lost 4 of 5 starters from last season?

I sure hope Lanning knows what he is doing because his hiring criteria defies logic / common sense and it is not even remotely close to the norm.

3 hires this off-season and collectively the P5 coaching experience might fill a thimble...and we are talking OC, CO-DC and OL positions🙄

At this point it is obvious he prefers, with a few exceptions, coaches around his age or younger and most importantly, lacking in experience at the level of their jobs.

Dillingham(age 32 WITH P5 coaching experiences) and Klemm(age 45) are replaced with a 33 and 27-year old who have almost zero P5 coaching experience to any measureable degree.

Bo Nix knows a library more of football offense than Stein and Terry combined.

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....says the guy who ROASTED, I mean, was literally foaming at the mouth when Lanning hired Dillingham, Klemm and Locklyn, who just happened to be the 3 best hires Lanning made last year! 

Why don't you try taking a deep breath and have a positive outlook for once?  You have a right to your opinion, but maybe taking a wait and see approach would be advised here?

 

 

2/15/2023 12:57 pm  #6


Re: New OL Coach!!

"Why don't you try taking a deep breath and have a positive outlook for once?  You have a right to your opinion, but maybe taking a wait and see approach would be advised here?"

😂😂😂

You mean like YOUR wait and see approach to Kliavkoff / a media rights deal / future of the Pac-12? It seems you have repeatedly expressed your doom and gloom forecast on those issues for months...and your dislike for Kliavkoff.

Nor was I the one ranting the entire season that Lupoi needed to be fired. You certainly didn't wait  beyond a few games to make your opinions known. And guess what? He is still on the staff.

I like the NIL dynamic. Do you? No need for me to wait and see...I think it is long overdue and is not ruining college football. Changing it? Yes. Ruining it? Nope.

Funny how you perceive me as being negative...tell you what...you stay in your lane with what you don't like and I will stay in my lane and we won't comment about each other's dislikes. Because it is not as one-sided as you are portraying it to be.

Otherwise...just like Herbert made Oregon coaches look better than vice versa; ditto with Nix. We all saw how Dillingham did with backup QB's and when Nix got injured.

That in addition to having a 21-point lead with 5 minutes remaining in the third quarter against osu and Oregon only scoring a FG the rest of the way. Oh that is right, I forgot he checked out of that game for his new job and Oregon won a bowl game without him. Hmmmm

Klemm inherited one of the most experienced OL in the nation if not the most experienced. Thankfully he did well which allowed Nix and the RB's to do well too.

But if you think a 27-year old with 1-year at Hawaii and 1-year in the NFL(coaching the DL) was the best hire available given the stature of Oregon's program...we simply have different hiring standards.

Just like we have different wait and see standards too.

 

2/15/2023 1:05 pm  #7


Re: New OL Coach!!

gee whiz, what next? an OC from New Hampshire of something?

 

2/15/2023 2:38 pm  #8


Re: New OL Coach!!

OldMacManaic wrote:

gee whiz, what next? an OC from New Hampshire of something?

WHAT??? So hiring from that powerhouse New Hampshire..wasn't even a head coach...Belotti really reaching here. No P5 experience AT ALL!!!! We are Doomed
 

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2/15/2023 3:41 pm  #9


Re: New OL Coach!!

Another article about Terry, with a link at the bottom to read what former players had to sat about him.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/5-things-know-oregon-ducks-214141875.html

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2/15/2023 8:02 pm  #10


Re: New OL Coach!!

DucksReign wrote:

"Why don't you try taking a deep breath and have a positive outlook for once? You have a right to your opinion, but maybe taking a wait and see approach would be advised here?"

😂😂😂

You mean like YOUR wait and see approach to Kliavkoff / a media rights deal / future of the Pac-12? It seems you have repeatedly expressed your doom and gloom forecast on those issues for months...and your dislike for Kliavkoff.

Nor was I the one ranting the entire season that Lupoi needed to be fired. You certainly didn't wait beyond a few games to make your opinions known. And guess what? He is still on the staff.

I like the NIL dynamic. Do you? No need for me to wait and see...I think it is long overdue and is not ruining college football. Changing it? Yes. Ruining it? Nope.

Funny how you perceive me as being negative...tell you what...you stay in your lane with what you don't like and I will stay in my lane and we won't comment about each other's dislikes. Because it is not as one-sided as you are portraying it to be.

Otherwise...just like Herbert made Oregon coaches look better than vice versa; ditto with Nix. We all saw how Dillingham did with backup QB's and when Nix got injured.

That in addition to having a 21-point lead with 5 minutes remaining in the third quarter against osu and Oregon only scoring a FG the rest of the way. Oh that is right, I forgot he checked out of that game for his new job and Oregon won a bowl game without him. Hmmmm

Klemm inherited one of the most experienced OL in the nation if not the most experienced. Thankfully he did well which allowed Nix and the RB's to do well too.

But if you think a 27-year old with 1-year at Hawaii and 1-year in the NFL(coaching the DL) was the best hire available given the stature of Oregon's program...we simply have different hiring standards.

Just like we have different wait and see standards too.

I've been "waiting and seeing" with Kliavkoff for about 8 months now. What has he delivered for the conference? Absolutely bubkus! I know he was dealt a bad hand being hired after Loser Larry, but after 8 months of nothing but lip service, playing the fool with handshake deals and being asleep at the wheel while we lose our two biggest schools, I believe the results speak for themselves. At least I have waited for some tangible data before my negative outlook with George. I didn't throw him under the bus before he even had his introductory news conference. And don't even get me started with his dereliction of duty in regards to Pac12 officiating. 

But you know what? Even after the dismal results, I'll wait and see if he can pull the rabbit out of the hat. I'll still give him the chance to prove me wrong. 

NIL? In theory it's fine. In practice it's shady as hell. You want to sell Jerseys, get paid for making a commercial or an endorsement? Fine and good. You want to give the players a cut of the massive profit's college football generates? Wonderful. Let's have it out in the open for all to see. Getting millions for just showing up, doing nothing and with zero transparency is NOT what NIL was supposed to be all about. Personally, I want to KNOW how many millions my QB is making so I can gauge my criticism of him accordingly. NIL as currently instituted is trash in my book. And yes, if this continues it will ruin college football. 

 

 

2/15/2023 8:21 pm  #11


Re: New OL Coach!!

Oh, and I don't believe I ever called for Lupois firing. Seriously critical of him? Absolutely!

That man makes 1.7 Million a year. There needs to be accountabilty. If our defense struggles again this year, I WILL call for his firing. As far as last season, anyone who actually watched the games knew very early our defense had problems......and the unit really never got better. Perhaps the secondary improved the last couple games but that's about it.

However, I will "wait and see" what happens. But, yeah, he's on the hot seat as far as I'm concerned.

 

2/16/2023 7:48 pm  #12


Re: New OL Coach!!

oldretiredguy wrote:

OldMacManaic wrote:

gee whiz, what next? an OC from New Hampshire of something?

WHAT??? So hiring from that powerhouse New Hampshire..wasn't even a head coach...Belotti really reaching here. No P5 experience AT ALL!!!! We are Doomed

Offensive Coordinators hired under Bellotti in chronological order and their job prior to coming to Oregon...setting aside Bellotti had 7-years experience as an OC before 4-years as the head coach at Chico State before becoming the OC at Oregon for 5-years prior to becoming the HC.

Al Borges...2-years the OC / QB coach Boise State and prior to that 7-years in the same positions at Portland State...9-years of EXPERIENCE

Dirk Koetter...2 years as the OC at Boston College after being the OC at Missouri and UTEP

Jeff Tedford...5-years as the OC / QB coach at Fresno State

Andy Ludwig...3-years as the OC at Fresno State

Gary Crowton...4-years as the HC at BYU and around 15-years coaching the offensive side of the ball.

Chip Kelly...Oregon fans love to play the Chip Kelly - New Hampshire card as in Bellotti simply guessing / hoping he would be good, without know any statistics as in...

"Kelly was promoted to offensive coordinator at New Hampshire (1999–2006). The Wildcats' offenses averaged better than 400 yards per game of total offense in seven of his eight seasons[3] In 2004, the school broke 29 offensive school records; compiling 5,446 yards of total offense and scoring 40 or more points in seven games. Their best offensive output was in 2005 when the Wildcats finished second nationally in total offense (493.5 ypg), third in scoring (41.7 ppg) and fifth in passing (300.1 ypg). They completed the season with an 11–2 record."

Thankfully Bellotti hired Kelly because Lanning would have never done so due to Kelly having WAY TOO MUCH experience.

Instead, Will Stein who from 2018-19 was coaching high school football; then  from 2020 to 2022 was the WR, PGC, Co-OC and QB coach in various stages at mighty University of Texas at San Antonio.

If Stein was where he is today back when Bellotti was Oregon's HC, he would have been lucky if Bellotti hired him to be the water boy. Furthermore I doubt Bellotti would have even wasted time seeking him for the position.

Every Bellotti OC hire had standalone experience at the position and most certainly wasn't a couple of years removed from coaching high school football.


 

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2/17/2023 9:30 am  #13


Re: New OL Coach!!

I'm confident NH did not play a P5 schedule, and I know many were not happy with that hire originally. Last year, under an OC that you couldn't believe we would hire, Ducks averaged 500 YPG. 
You don't seem interested in adopting a wait and see approach to Coach Stein, even tho Coach Lanning's hires have worked out pretty well so far. A 10 win season and a top 10 recruiting class is not too shabby for a rookie HC. 
As I said, I trust the coaches, something you obviously do not, but they, as young as they are, have more FB knowledge than all of us combined. 
If you want to be constantly negative, that's up to you..I'm getting very tired of it.

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