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6/17/2022 3:12 pm  #1


Insight into Oregon's undrafted players

With significant input from former Oregon and NFL player, JJ Birden, Canzano posted a recent column concerning what went wrong with the Oregon players who were thinking they would be drafted.

This was a follow up column to one Canzano wrote right after the NFL Draft...without Birden's thoughts.

Interestingly too is apparently his first column was read by Coach Lanning who is going to distribute it to the team this upcoming season!

Both columns are below in order...

https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-undrafted-oregon-ducks-got

https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-ex-nfl-player-says-undrafted?s=r

Side note: I am not, as I have shared here previously, one who finds much credibility in fan boy websites like Mr FishDuck's nonsense. Yet I know the venom is equally strong about Canzano but I will say while I always felt his podcast was of higher quality than his written material...his new "only me now" endeavor has a very different tone about it. He is engaged with people who read and comment.

 

6/17/2022 4:18 pm  #2


Re: Insight into Oregon's undrafted players

DucksReign wrote:

With significant input from former Oregon and NFL player, JJ Birden, Canzano posted a recent column concerning what went wrong with the Oregon players who were thinking they would be drafted.

This was a follow up column to one Canzano wrote right after the NFL Draft...without Birden's thoughts.

Interestingly too is apparently his first column was read by Coach Lanning who is going to distribute it to the team this upcoming season!

Both columns are below in order...

https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-undrafted-oregon-ducks-got

https://www.johncanzano.com/p/canzano-ex-nfl-player-says-undrafted?s=r

Side note: I am not, as I have shared here previously, one who finds much credibility in fan boy websites like Mr FishDuck's nonsense. Yet I know the venom is equally strong about Canzano but I will say while I always felt his podcast was of higher quality than his written material...his new "only me now" endeavor has a very different tone about it. He is engaged with people who read and comment.

Good stuff. I certainly have to agree with JJ about kids getting bad advice..all for money. NIL might have been better for them all.
 

 

6/17/2022 4:37 pm  #3


Re: Insight into Oregon's undrafted players

Yeah the NIL might have been a better short term option and MAYBE JUST MAYBE for all the uncertainty and negativity about, the NIL MIGHT help keep players in college.

College head coaches need recruits and transfers...NFL teams need employees. Big difference.

However, I could see from the perspectives of the players when reading the columns why they might have left...a new head coach which meant a new coordinator; tired of the college experience(I know after 4-years at the UO I was ready for new adventures and I didn't play sports); injuries(Verdell) and why play another year to risk injury...those are not unreasonable criteria for leaving BUT as noted, sometimes we need to be PATIENT.

Personally as much as I was disappointed to see where he went...I think Travis Dye made a very good decision to transfer and continuing to improve.

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6/18/2022 8:26 am  #4


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Those are both goodreads. It's nice to see a comments section with an actual former NFL player chiming in. It looks like Ken Goe is a regular too. O-live is missing out by not having comments and messed up by not being able to moderate the peanut gallery when they did. 

It's unfortunate that JC burned a lot of bridges with a lot of fans. Some of it is certainly deserved. If you just look at a lot of his investigative reporting and I don't see how you can say his reporting is horrible and his stories are bad. JC might be better suited for an East Coast environment where I think fans would still be critical of him, but not tune him out completely or acknowledge his good work.

I tuned into his show 3 different times in the past week or 2 while driving. He had Jon Wilner on and Tim Donaghy on another day. Tim is the former NBA ref with a book that got caught fixing games. He exposed a lot of interesting things about the way the NBA officiates. 2 great guest and the 3rd time he was talking about Phil Knight trying to buy the Blazers, which included a lot of interesting info about Knight that I hadn't heard before. 

The O-live should have a new columnist anytime now. I heard they were interviewing 5 different candidates a couple weeks back. They're looking for another columnist verus adding another sports reporter like Crepea.  

 

6/18/2022 12:05 pm  #5


Re: Insight into Oregon's undrafted players

Phil wrote:

It's unfortunate that JC burned a lot of bridges with a lot of fans. Some of it is certainly deserved. If you just look at a lot of his investigative reporting and I don't see how you can say his reporting is horrible and his stories are bad.

Yeah Canzano used his "columnist" status to infuriate people for a lot of years and while I think he was over the top on many occasions, I also think fans don't always realize / accept the difference between a "columnist" and "beat reporter." The former is paid to express opinions while the latter "covers" a team or sport.

George Schroeder was reviled by many Oregon fans when he was at the RG because he had the gall, as a columnist, to write anti-Oregon if you will columns from time to time.

Compounding all this is Oregon is a VERY SMALL media market and someone like Canzano sticks out more than if he was with the LA Times as one example. He is actually pretty tame compared to what the "big city boys" write.

Regardless now that he is his own man, he has to build a following vs throwing grenades and not really caring what remains (when he was at OLive).

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