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3/28/2020 12:27 pm  #1


More osu hyping nonsense by Nick Daschel

I have this thing...if you are going to write an opinion column, do some basic research that goes beyond citing only statistics which support your claims. 

OLive beaver homer Nick Daschel posted this column a few days ago and right away when I saw the word "significant" in the headline, I knew what I was about to read would be flawed. This type of writing is what I would typically find on FishDuck....writers who have an agenda before they write their column.

https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2020/03/oregon-states-stability-among-its-football-coaching-staff-could-prove-significant-during-coronavirus-era.html

Below is a copy / paste of the  email I sent him...I will let you know if he replies. 

1) Most teams who finish in the middle of the conference in offense(Scoring / Total) and the bottom third in defense(Scoring / Total) do not have coaches who are attractive to other programs.

2) Your loose use of the word "made" as in the head coaches who have made assistant coaching changes....some coaches had to make those changes because an assistant coach left for a better and perhaps more lucrative job i.e. Marcus Arroyo to name one example. Making changes to coaching staffs are a result of multiple issues...not just a simple head count.

3) Of the Pac-12 head coaches who are heading into their third season...do you know which of them have the worst overall W-L records? Smith(7-17) and Kelly(7-17)...yep the same two you noted as having the least coaching staff changes. Cristobal is 21-6; Edwards is 15-11 and Sumlin 9-15.

4) Stanford? Besides both Stanford and osu, which you highlight as having the fewest changes, finishing with losing conference and overall records...in the last 3-years Stanford has gone from 1st place in the North to 3rd place to 6th place.

My conclusion is MAYBE, Covid-19 issues aside, the head coaches who have made the fewest amount of coaching staff changes should actually be trying to do some instead of standing pat with the same staff.

Last edited by DucksReign (3/28/2020 12:30 pm)

 

3/28/2020 2:48 pm  #2


Re: More osu hyping nonsense by Nick Daschel

Excellent, fair points, DR. Doubt you get a reply, but glad he knows people are paying attention...

 

3/28/2020 3:13 pm  #3


Re: More osu hyping nonsense by Nick Daschel

Successful programs lose assistants all the time. Case in point, Alabama with Cristobal coming to the Ducks. Ducks will get raided by other west coast teams as the success continues. If you're in the lower tier of a conference,  chances are you will keep most of your assistants.

 

3/28/2020 6:01 pm  #4


Re: More osu hyping nonsense by Nick Daschel

DucksReign wrote:

I have this thing...if you are going to write an opinion column, do some basic research that goes beyond citing only statistics which support your claims. 

OLive beaver homer Nick Daschel posted this column a few days ago and right away when I saw the word "significant" in the headline, I knew what I was about to read would be flawed. This type of writing is what I would typically find on FishDuck....writers who have an agenda before they write their column.

https://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/2020/03/oregon-states-stability-among-its-football-coaching-staff-could-prove-significant-during-coronavirus-era.html

Below is a copy / paste of the  email I sent him...I will let you know if he replies. 

1) Most teams who finish in the middle of the conference in offense(Scoring / Total) and the bottom third in defense(Scoring / Total) do not have coaches who are attractive to other programs.

2) Your loose use of the word "made" as in the head coaches who have made assistant coaching changes....some coaches had to make those changes because an assistant coach left for a better and perhaps more lucrative job i.e. Marcus Arroyo to name one example. Making changes to coaching staffs are a result of multiple issues...not just a simple head count.

3) Of the Pac-12 head coaches who are heading into their third season...do you know which of them have the worst overall W-L records? Smith(7-17) and Kelly(7-17)...yep the same two you noted as having the least coaching staff changes. Cristobal is 21-6; Edwards is 15-11 and Sumlin 9-15.

4) Stanford? Besides both Stanford and osu, which you highlight as having the fewest changes, finishing with losing conference and overall records...in the last 3-years Stanford has gone from 1st place in the North to 3rd place to 6th place.

My conclusion is MAYBE, Covid-19 issues aside, the head coaches who have made the fewest amount of coaching staff changes should actually be trying to do some instead of standing pat with the same staff.

Great response. Why do the beav homers try so hard, when it's obvious they haven't a clue? Go Ducks!!!

 

3/28/2020 6:16 pm  #5


Re: More osu hyping nonsense by Nick Daschel

hope everybody is doing well and hanging in there during these Strange Days . . .
The O has been pulling its punches w Oregon State athletics and slow-walking anything unflattering for a few years now. Danny Moran breaking the Luke Heimlich story permanently burned some bridges, and Canzano the Gossip Columnist zoom-bombing Gary Andersen's 'private' texts all over the place poured even more gasoline on that fire. hard to blame the beat writer, who needs to maintain access and some semblance of cordiality, for being as charitable as possible.
The O completely ignored the Mike Parker story--it was a big deal, and the OS AD finally rolled over when some boosters and donors applied the pressure. they've also tiptoed around discussions of Wayne Tinkle's future, while other outlets like the G-T have wondered in print whether it was time to cut Big Tinks loose.
I've been told by a couple of OS golf buddies that Oregon State has conferred a seven-figure settlement on Kevin Abel for what Pat Casey did to his arm and his future in Omaha two years ago. kid was on his way to being a 1st- or 2nd-round MLB draft choice and some giant slot money. now he's had Tommy John surgery and might be done w baseball. all because Casey wanted to win some collegiate 'championship'.
I'm sure the story will become public at some point, but I'm not holding my breath to read it first in The Oregonian.

Last edited by OldMacManaic (3/28/2020 6:21 pm)

 

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