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Altman does it again
A commit from an outstanding point guard..
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oldretiredguy wrote:
A commit from an outstanding point guard..
I love how a young player of his caliber already refers to D Altman as “legendary.”
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It is a great signing but I have become increasingly more skeptical of their value / importance. These guys arrive with so much glamour attached to them that one foot is already out the door.
Oregon like 99% of college basketball teams is not Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina where their entire classes are these types of recruits.
Yet it seems Oregon's "phenoms" and elite recruits don't stay healthy or even last a full season.
One common denominator with elite basketball recruits is you RARELY hear them say they want to lead a school to a national championship or even win such a championship. Instead it is their "dream school" or the "right place for me."
Translation: "I think this is my ticket to play at the next level as quickly as possible."
Look at Calipari who coaches in that reality...for all the hype he gets he has won ONE NCAA Championship at Kentucky and that was almost 10-years ago(2012).
Again, a nice feel good signing...I am not sure what impact it will eventually have on the court for Oregon.
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No surprise to all on these boards that I am somewhat jaded to anything regarding recruiting in the new era of the transfer portal. Great get for Altman, but he is a one-and-done, whether going pro or transferring out. Maybe he attends a class or two...?
Gone are the days of building programs and depth where most players understand they occupy the end of the bench their first year, get in the rotation the second year and then have a shot at starting after that. I am class of '92 and remember getting to know not only "my" team, but the other teams in the conference and developing a rapport with them in the pit (special mention to Booker Turner). Nothing boorish from the students and the opposing coaches seemed to enjoy the atmosphere as well.
Nowadays it seems that I am cheering more or less anymore for laundry (to paraphrase Seinfeld)...
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No surprise to all on these boards that I am somewhat jaded to anything regarding recruiting in the new era of the transfer portal. Great get for Altman, but he is a one-and-done, whether going pro or transferring out. Maybe he attends a class or two...?
Gone are the days of building programs and depth where most players understand they occupy the end of the bench their first year, get in the rotation the second year and then have a shot at starting after that. I am class of '92 and remember getting to know not only "my" team, but the other teams in the conference and developing a rapport with them in the pit (special mention to Booker Turner). Nothing boorish from the students and the opposing coaches seemed to enjoy the atmosphere as well.
Nowadays it seems that I am cheering more or less anymore for laundry (to paraphrase Seinfeld)...
That’s my feelings as well. I’m happy that Oregon is getting a great player, and I wish our new recruit success in achieving his goals, that’s he’s sacrificed and worked hard for.
I do tend to think that the one and done sacrifices the purity of the game for brand recognition. The college game had been about winning a championship for your school and playing as a team to achieve those goals. The school would make an investment in the student as would the student to the school.
I also think that 99% of the players should be staying in school for nearly the full 4 years as most are not good enough to roster on an NBA team after a year of college ball. I’m curious to know whether players who do 3+ years of college ball, stay longer in the league due to being more developed when they enter the league and can contribute right away; than do their one and done counterparts?
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Here is interesting info on playing at the next level produced by the NCAA...
Keep in mind...these stats are simply for getting drafted...not "making the team."
Coupled with the AVERAGE NBA career at 4.5 years(NFL is 2.5 years) the chances of "making it" are very slim.
Honestly, while there are aspects of the transfer portal I don't like, at the moment I give more value to coaches recruiting players from it than a high school kid.
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I don’t see any love here about this 17 yr old kid for passing up 1.2 mil to play for our Ducks. I personally find that impressive.
Maybe he does want to get an education, develop under D Altman, and be a Duck. Being under the watchful eye of Nike isn’t a bad idea either.
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I don’t see any love here about this 17 yr old kid for passing up 1.2 mil to play for our Ducks. I personally find that impressive.
Maybe he does want to get an education, develop under D Altman, and be a Duck. Being under the watchful eye of Nike isn’t a bad idea either.
I don't think it has much to do with him personally but rather what has become of the entire culture of these types of players.
If he stays 4-years or even 3...it will be because he massively underachieved and / or too many injuries.
As per the link below...no mention of a "championship" or "title" of any kind i.e. conference, conference tournament or NCAA. A tidbit of sorts by suggesting he can help recruit.
Perhaps he will be an exception but at this point I am too jaded with this type of recruit(for basketball)...education, championships, and taking a team to a higher level are all secondary if that because him getting to the next level is the priority.
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It is a great signing but I have become increasingly more skeptical of their value / importance. These guys arrive with so much glamour attached to them that one foot is already out the door.
Oregon like 99% of college basketball teams is not Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina where their entire classes are these types of recruits.
Yet it seems Oregon's "phenoms" and elite recruits don't stay healthy or even last a full season.
One common denominator with elite basketball recruits is you RARELY hear them say they want to lead a school to a national championship or even win such a championship. Instead it is their "dream school" or the "right place for me."
Translation: "I think this is my ticket to play at the next level as quickly as possible."
Look at Calipari who coaches in that reality...for all the hype he gets he has won ONE NCAA Championship at Kentucky and that was almost 10-years ago(2012).
Again, a nice feel good signing...I am not sure what impact it will eventually have on the court for Oregon.
I agree with this 100%
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