I don't think it is the QB play as much as the coaching. As I have seen noted on other chats, this is all starting to look like last year with Shough... indecision, poor choices, etc. as the season progresses the QB play gets worse.

AB is clearly better when he is moving vs standing still...both running and passing. Roll him out on every play.

Part of the coaching aspect is Oregon's offense is SO PREDICTABLE...it wouldn't matter who the QB is if you are calling the same plays. DC's must love preparing for Oregon i e. no surprise or big play element to worry about.

Any word on Moorhead?

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oldretiredguy wrote:

DucksReign wrote:

I don't think it is the QB play as much as the coaching. As I have seen noted on other chats, this is all starting to look like last year with Shough... indecision, poor choices, etc. as the season progresses the QB play gets worse.

AB is clearly better when he is moving vs standing still...both running and passing. Roll him out on every play.

Part of the coaching aspect is Oregon's offense is SO PREDICTABLE...it wouldn't matter who the QB is if you are calling the same plays. DC's must love preparing for Oregon i e. no surprise or big play element to worry about.

I'm gonna stick with the play of Brown as our main problem. He had guys open, but threw behind them. He tucks and runs far too much, and his decision making on reads is not good. I won't argue it does seem like MC wants low scoring games, but I think there are plenty of plays to be made that Brown simply does not see. 
 

Oh believe me, I think AB has plenty of issues but his play is a direct reflection of the coaching he receives. We saw it last year with Shough and now with Brown...the Oregon coaching staff is not very good at coaching the QB position.

I don't think we've utilized the talent at the QB position since Chip was around. That said I rather see what Ty can do.

Knowing Mario I doubt we'll see a change at this point. 

DucksReign wrote:

oldretiredguy wrote:

DucksReign wrote:

I don't think it is the QB play as much as the coaching. As I have seen noted on other chats, this is all starting to look like last year with Shough... indecision, poor choices, etc. as the season progresses the QB play gets worse.

AB is clearly better when he is moving vs standing still...both running and passing. Roll him out on every play.

Part of the coaching aspect is Oregon's offense is SO PREDICTABLE...it wouldn't matter who the QB is if you are calling the same plays. DC's must love preparing for Oregon i e. no surprise or big play element to worry about.

I'm gonna stick with the play of Brown as our main problem. He had guys open, but threw behind them. He tucks and runs far too much, and his decision making on reads is not good. I won't argue it does seem like MC wants low scoring games, but I think there are plenty of plays to be made that Brown simply does not see. 
 

Oh believe me, I think AB has plenty of issues but his play is a direct reflection of the coaching he receives. We saw it last year with Shough and now with Brown...the Oregon coaching staff is not very good at coaching the QB position.

Agreed...And we saw it with the great Herbert too. Look what Herbert is doing for the Chargers...impressive. I think Moorhead is a decent OC but maybe Cristobal is overruling him?

AB is a game manager QB, not a game changer.  He is rarely going to make plays that change the game.  

That's ok.  You can win a lot of games with a game manager.  But you have to make the plays that the defense gives you.  Too many times he misses an open man or throws a ball that can't possibly be caught.  

If you aren't going to successfully throw more than 1-2 home run balls (strikes of 40 yards or more), then you need to complete a high percentage.  You can get away with a lower percentage if some of your completions are long balls.  If not, you need to be hitting at least up towards 65%.

I don't know whether AB has "game-changer" in him, but with the current play calling he's a game manager, not game changer.  And his percentage isn't high enough for that.  

Winning passing play needs a yards per attempt of 8 1/2 to 9.  Either you complete most of your attempts to get there, or you hit enough long ones to make the defense respect it and stretch the field.

I like that he spreads the ball around, so that the defense never knows where the danger is.  I like his running threat.  We could do a lot worse for QB, and I don't know whether the younger QBs are really ready to be any better, nor if the right way to develop them would be to throw them in against someone like Stanford.  

But when I watch AB, I'm not seeing "championship QB" at all.  With the talent on the team, we might win the PAC but it likely won't go any further than that.

And ground and pound is going to be a lot harder without CJ, too.  He's not Royce Freeman, anyway, but Travis is like half of Royce's weight, I think.

"+25 penalties for some 250 yards in the last 3 games...well at least there is one stat which can't be blamed on AB".
thats almost as many O yards as were gained LOL