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"You mention Harbaugh as an example, which is interesting since he was the experienced big name hire to make at the time. Harbaugh took an NFL team to a super bowl. He was able to recruit well even when he kept falling short against the likes of Ohio State. Which was a good reason to keep him around against keeping a guy like Helfrich who couldn't recruit. Wilcox doesn't have any sort of similarities to Harbaugh whatsoever."
Yeah because Wilcox has had to work to overcome an administration that doesn't care about football and willing to commit resources that are a given at a place like Michigan. Harbaugh has his job because the administration supported him far more than the fan base, alumni and media did in his previous 6-years.
Jonathan Smith came within 1 game of winning the North Division (so did WSU with 2 different head coaches) over Oregon with better facilities, biggger coaching salaries, more talented rosters and a host of other advantages. Sometimes coaches who have to overcome hurdles to find success give a program the best chance to win. Wilcox has coached Cal pretty even the last 3-years with 7, 4 and 10 point differences against Oregon including one win.
Many Oregon fans seem to think we have a ready-made championship roster...based on what? How many * they came in with? I think our stength and conditioning program needs a new look.
Cristobal won but he hardly separated Oregon from the rest of the Conference in the mold of Alabama, Clemson (before this season), Georgia...and he is 4-years into the job...5 if you count his first season as AHC and OL coach.
Anyway, I have what I am hoping for as our next hire and soon we will find out who it will be.
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Yeah because Wilcox has had to work to overcome an administration that doesn't care about football and willing to commit resources...
J Tedford was quite successful at Cal (82-57), J Wilcox (22-23).
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Keep in mind that what the UO really needs is a CEO who can coach his coaches up, head an intense recruiting system and be a great in-game manager. Honestly I do not have the insight to discern on these lists who checks the boxes off better than others in this capacity. What we do not need is a micromanager who trusts his "process" more than he trusts his staff and players...
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Re Kiffin...I don't think there is even the slightest chance Oregon would match let alone exceed the contract extension Lane "It is time to change jobs again" Kiffin just signed at Ole Miss. He is not a Pacific Northwest guy.
Re Aranda...I continue to be shocked at so much attention given to a guy who started his FIRST head coaching job in 2020 and has a 13-9 record?!? Duck fans must have very short memories.
Yeah he won the Big 12 Championship but Cristobal won the Pac-12 Championship AND Rose Bowl in his 2nd year too.
The common denominator? They both won with a majority of players they INHERITED vs recruited. The further MC got into his tenure with his team the less they looked like his 2nd year. And he was an elite recruiter.
Sorry but I want to see a coach who has at least worked a full recruiting "cycle"(4-years) at a school to see what he can do with HIS recruits.
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Re Kiffin...I don't think there is even the slightest chance Oregon would match let alone exceed the contract extension Lane "It is time to change jobs again" Kiffin just signed at Ole Miss. He is not a Pacific Northwest guy.
Re Aranda...I continue to be shocked at so much attention given to a guy who started his FIRST head coaching job in 2020 and has a 13-9 record?!? Duck fans must have very short memories.
Yeah he won the Big 12 Championship but Cristobal won the Pac-12 Championship AND Rose Bowl in his 2nd year too.
The common denominator? They both won with a majority of players they INHERITED vs recruited. The further MC got into his tenure with his team the less they looked like his 2nd year. And he was an elite recruiter.
Sorry but I want to see a coach who has at least worked a full recruiting "cycle"(4-years) at a school to see what he can do with HIS recruits.
You're right, Kiffin is already making bank and couldn't be swayed by money. Not a North West guy either.
I'm not as hot on Aranda as I am on Fickell and Campbell. It's hard to judge a coach on a couple years, but I put a lot more stock in the second year. Ficell and Campbell seem a lot more proven. There's certainly been a lot of coaching bust with a coach having 1 great year and then getting the big gig and not being successful.
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This video from 247Sports is halfway decent. Not a lot of inside information or anything. The big takeaway is that they think Oregon is a lot more of attractive location that it used to be. He also made the point that Oregon needs to be able to hire within like Notre Dame did this year. Not with any current coaches, but the next set of coaches.
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Canzo said a couple hours ago that he talked to Kiffin's inside circle and he's interested. It was his opinion that the Ducks probably haven't talked to him since they were reaching out to tell him Kiffin's interested.
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Aranda was my first thought after Mario bounced. A couple days have passed and I am liking the thought of Lane Kiffin more and more. The guy can flat out coach and recruit. His time at Bama as OC changed him as a coach and has now, IMO, become one of, if not the best offensive mind in college football. His 2 seasons with Ole Miss have been epic. Went 5-5 to 10-2. He has a ton of connections in So. Cal and SEC country. He is young and hungry. Kids love the guy. Hire Lane Kiffin and the UO becomes instant contenders with the roster we have. He would also salvage recruiting. #LaneCounty
You make a pretty convincing case for Lane. It's hard to argue with his potential. I would just have to get over him being the guy that coaches on the team I don't like.
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Well, there are rumors out there...
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What about Dabo?
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Dabo is a conservative evangelical Christian. When a couple of his players wanted to get baptized he invited a preacher to come in and they had the baptisms at football practice. He holds Bible studies with players.
There are a lot of people at Oregon who would freak out and try to get rid of him from day one. Clemson is in the South where religion is just expected. Oregon is nowhere near as friendly to religion.
Why should he step into that? At the very least Swinney would be under the microscope from day one and anything that could be criticized would be, whether fairly or not.
No way Dabo Swinney would come to Oregon. There's probably no chance he'd be asked. I know Altman is a conservative Christian, too, but it's not the same.
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I had the exact same thought as DITM when I saw his name. It seems like way too much of a bad fit. Behind that there's a lot of reasons that make this hard to believe as being a realistic option.
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The big takeaway is that the Ducks have talked to someone in the NFL. Joe Brady is already out and I heard some noise about him talking to Mario about joining the Canes staff.
Could the Ducks have talked to Eric Bieniemy? I hope so. Edit: I made this comment from his sucess on the Chiefs and previus experience at Colorado. I remembed he had some kind of legal issue in the past and just looked it up. It was more than one incident. They were all dating way back to the early 90's and I believe people can change. Legal issues in the past shouldn't define someons character for life in my opinion. Urban Meyer may not have criminal charges, however he seems to be of poor character and somebody I wouldn't want as coach. Character is certainly something to consider.
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