February is late for those wanting to enter school early.

It also means these kids can't easily close the door on continual recruiting pitches.  That's all fine, gratifying to the ego and all, but once they've decided and want done with it, it can be pretty disruptive to life during their senior year in high school.

A lot of kids like the ESD.  I don't think it should be taken away from them simply because coaches are moving around.  Most coaches aren't moving around.

oldretiredguy wrote:

DuckInTheMountains wrote:

February is late for those wanting to enter school early.

It also means these kids can't easily close the door on continual recruiting pitches.  That's all fine, gratifying to the ego and all, but once they've decided and want done with it, it can be pretty disruptive to life during their senior year in high school.

A lot of kids like the ESD.  I don't think it should be taken away from them simply because coaches are moving around.  Most coaches aren't moving around.

There have been 28 coaching changes at the FBS level this year, and that is about the average since 2015. I think the ESD could be moved to right after the NCG. This has negatively impacted us twice now. 
https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-football/news/college-football-coach-carousel-2021-fbs-change/1a4hp96yv3as81evidmgobko07
 

The thing I don't like is there is now an entire culture which has evolved...it is not just a signing...kids can't even finish high school...they "need" to enroll early...so it becomes this big race....all over a bunch of 18-year olds.

People complain about college football becoming a big business. That doesn't bother me as much as pandering over, gloating about, annointing  greatness before it is earned, etc. to teenage boys.

If college football can't survive without ESD, early enrollment and all related issues, then ESD is the least of the problems.

If even one-third as much time, money and effort was put into improving officiating as there is into recruiting, the overall product would be better regardless of ESD.

DuckInTheMountains wrote:

DucksReign wrote:

The thing I don't like is there is now an entire culture which has evolved...it is not just a signing...kids can't even finish high school...they "need" to enroll early...so it becomes this big race....all over a bunch of 18-year olds.

People complain about college football becoming a big business. That doesn't bother me as much as pandering over, gloating about, annointing greatness before it is earned, etc. to teenage boys.

If college football can't survive without ESD, early enrollment and all related issues, then ESD is the least of the problems.

If even one-third as much time, money and effort was put into improving officiating as there is into recruiting, the overall product would be better regardless of ESD.

So, student-athlete Smartly Studly studies really hard because he wants to get on with his life, and graduates in December of his senior year.  He's knocked off a few AP courses, he wants to get done with college in 3 1/2 years, so by graduating early from high school he can be all done and out earning money a year ahead of his classmates.

He decides on USC, and says, "Can I sign and come early?"  And they say, "Well, Smartly, there's no early signing day anymore because DucksReign doesn't like the culture it creates."  He says, "But your spring term starts in January before the normal signing day.  And if I come and your coach changes his mind and pulls my scholarship, nothing has been signed."  "Too bad, Mr Studly.  You can't sign."

ESD hasn't been around that long, and it was brought in because high school coaches and high school students said they wanted it.  I actually think you are focused on the wrong thing.  The circus around high school kids and recruiting was there before there was ESD.  ESD didn't cause that silliness.  We've only had ESD since 2017-18.

 

Well let's not make this personal. I too feel there needs to be a change, and the NCAA rules committee is already discussing this. The early kids can still enroll early. I'll admit to being surprised it became so popular among the kids, but I think something needs to be done concerning the timing. Seems to me the tail is wagging the dog here..it's still college football, and school is supposed to be important.