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1/02/2020 11:14 am  #1


Great column by Bill Plaschke of the LA Times!

Bill Plaschke is one of my favorite sportswriters and in case you have not seen this article, it is very good. The headline alone is priceless! Where I think it is a little misleading is Oregon and the Pac-12 Conference in general have ALWAYS recruited SoCal but now, at least for Oregon, instead of high 2* and 3* recruits who were either ignored or rejected by USC / UCLA, the Ducks are securing 4* and 5* recruits...and multiple recruits...not just one. Yet, Kenjon Barner is one of my all-time favorite Duck recruit successes...came to Oregon as a 3* CB and left at the time the #2(now #3) all-time leading RB in rushing yards. Could that happen in this era of Duck football with Cristobal's approach to recruiting? I am not sure it would. Go Ducks! 

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2020-01-01/oregon-wins-rose-bowl-with-players-who-should-be-on-usc-or-ucla

 

1/02/2020 11:28 am  #2


Re: Great column by Bill Plaschke of the LA Times!

It was great to read that article. I'm surprised Plaschke didn't mention one of the greatest recruiting flips out of Southern California in his column, DAT.

 

1/02/2020 12:16 pm  #3


Re: Great column by Bill Plaschke of the LA Times!

DucksReign wrote:

Bill Plaschke is one of my favorite sportswriters and in case you have not seen this article, it is very good. The headline alone is priceless! Where I think it is a little misleading is Oregon and the Pac-12 Conference in general have ALWAYS recruited SoCal but now, at least for Oregon, instead of high 2* and 3* recruits who were either ignored or rejected by USC / UCLA, the Ducks are securing 4* and 5* recruits...and multiple recruits...not just one. Yet, Kenjon Barner is one of my all-time favorite Duck recruit successes...came to Oregon as a 3* CB and left at the time the #2(now #3) all-time leading RB in rushing yards. Could that happen in this era of Duck football with Cristobal's approach to recruiting? I am not sure it would. Go Ducks! 

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2020-01-01/oregon-wins-rose-bowl-with-players-who-should-be-on-usc-or-ucla

Benson is a 3*. Not so sure MC won't offer lower rated kids if he sees potential. Still, you make a good point.

 

1/02/2020 1:05 pm  #4


Re: Great column by Bill Plaschke of the LA Times!

Thanks for the link to Plaschke's article.  Great title and an interesting read.  It proves the shifting tides are not in our imagination.

I believe potential recruits are looking for teams they believe they will succeed at, will perform well, and play in bowl high-profile bowl games, like the Rose Bowl.  the facilities at Oregon are pretty good too . .. at least for football.  Oregon is well-positioned to leverage this season and Rose Bowl win.  They need an OC, but that Arroyo stayed on to coach through the Rose Bowl says something about the program. 

There are a number of challenges Oregon faces next year, such as replacing Herbert and much of the offensive line.  I'm confident Cristobal will make a good choice for an OC.  

USC is going to continue to struggle.  The program has been a series of dramas since Carroll left and they're now committed to Helton for at least one more year.  However, Helton's been on the chopping block from the moment he accepted the HC position and every game comes with a will-they-or-won't-they question about Helton's future.  Things like that don't bode well for recruiting.

UCLA is not performing well and Chip Kelly's magic hasn't found its way there.  And, it doesn't look promising . . . at least for now.

I can imagine the forest fires in Southern California are becoming more and more of a deterrent to living there.  Nothing against Southern California, but I'm Portland-born and love the Pacific Northwest.  

 

1/02/2020 1:37 pm  #5


Re: Great column by Bill Plaschke of the LA Times!

DucksReign wrote:

Bill Plaschke is one of my favorite sportswriters and in case you have not seen this article, it is very good. The headline alone is priceless! Where I think it is a little misleading is Oregon and the Pac-12 Conference in general have ALWAYS recruited SoCal but now, at least for Oregon, instead of high 2* and 3* recruits who were either ignored or rejected by USC / UCLA, the Ducks are securing 4* and 5* recruits...and multiple recruits...not just one. Yet, Kenjon Barner is one of my all-time favorite Duck recruit successes...came to Oregon as a 3* CB and left at the time the #2(now #3) all-time leading RB in rushing yards. Could that happen in this era of Duck football with Cristobal's approach to recruiting? I am not sure it would. Go Ducks! 

https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2020-01-01/oregon-wins-rose-bowl-with-players-who-should-be-on-usc-or-ucla

Thanks for the link. Wow, those are some powerful words coming from significant SoCal kids. I love it!

 

1/02/2020 2:06 pm  #6


Re: Great column by Bill Plaschke of the LA Times!

Pete wrote:

Thanks for the link to Plaschke's article.  Great title and an interesting read.  It proves the shifting tides are not in our imagination.

I believe potential recruits are looking for teams they believe they will succeed at, will perform well, and play in bowl high-profile bowl games, like the Rose Bowl.  the facilities at Oregon are pretty good too . .. at least for football.  Oregon is well-positioned to leverage this season and Rose Bowl win.  They need an OC, but that Arroyo stayed on to coach through the Rose Bowl says something about the program. 

There are a number of challenges Oregon faces next year, such as replacing Herbert and much of the offensive line.  I'm confident Cristobal will make a good choice for an OC.  

USC is going to continue to struggle.  The program has been a series of dramas since Carroll left and they're now committed to Helton for at least one more year.  However, Helton's been on the chopping block from the moment he accepted the HC position and every game comes with a will-they-or-won't-they question about Helton's future.  Things like that don't bode well for recruiting.

UCLA is not performing well and Chip Kelly's magic hasn't found its way there.  And, it doesn't look promising . . . at least for now.

I can imagine the forest fires in Southern California are becoming more and more of a deterrent to living there.  Nothing against Southern California, but I'm Portland-born and love the Pacific Northwest.  

As a California resident, I am constantly amazed at how many Duck fans live here. Oregon is a known quantity, and a respected brand here. Honestly there are more Duck fans here in my town than we had in Eugene-Springfield when I was growing up. 😂

I’m sure this was meant to stir the fan bases in SoCal, but I’m not sure there’s enough left to pressure those administrations.

As for Chip, don’t be surprised if UCLA isn’t markedly better this year. With the losses to graduation at Utah, and the overall pallor over USC, it could be ASU and UCLA vying for the south title next year.

North will again be stacked. Oregon Washington, Stanford will be improved, Cal looks formidable, WSU is never an easy out, and Oregon State will be improved as well.

Luckily UW, USC, Stanford, and ASU are at home. Cal is scarier at Autzen then in Berkeley, Pullman is a hard trip, we’re at Tucson (always a crapshoot how we play there) Boulder can be a hard trip, but should be winnable,  Civil War at Parker stadium? Never easy.

Is it time for the spring game yet?

 

1/02/2020 2:24 pm  #7


Re: Great column by Bill Plaschke of the LA Times!

"Kenjon Barner is one of my all-time favorite Duck..."

i remember watching practices in Mo Center and KB 24 running sprints, alone, in 'left' endzone.  he was still recovering from the Wazzu blowup.  amazing to watch him switch gears from 'fast' to flat-out 'burner'.  he's a good dude.  that 300+ yard game against U$C is one i still go back and watch because that game was nuts!

 

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