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11/12/2022 10:36 pm  #1


Depressing loss

Lanning and Dillingham got out coached tonight, plain and simple. 
Rookie coaches will make rookie mistakes, but multiple self-inflicted wounds are unacceptable. 

Why are we relying on cute, tricky gadget crap all of a sudden? I don't understand. We play straight-up football, we win that game. The weird formation/motion garbage at the goal line where we fumbled, the onsides kick, going for it on 4th down at our own 30 in a tied game with 1:41 on the clock with freaking Thompson in the game???? And these are just the 3 most glaring examples. REALLY hope Lanning and Dilly learn some lessons from this. DON'T F*** AROUND AND BLOW A RIVALRY GAME!!!!!!

Oh, and our defense is just bad. We were never going to have a snowballs chance at winning a game at the CFP with this defense. Is Lupoi a good DC?? I know we lack talent on that side of the ball, but have we improved much at all the last 8 games? Where is the coaching/teaching?

At least now we don't have to stress about CFP. Let's hope Nix is healthy and maybe we can get to the Pac12 Championship game. A Rose Bowl would still be a great accomplishment.

GO DUCKS!

 

11/13/2022 7:00 am  #2


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Said something similar in the game chat.  This is on Lanning.  The onside kick and going for it on 4th with your non-option threat backup qb in your own territory that late in the game were calls I think he would like to have had back.  I get high risk and high reward and if both worked we are most likely talking about how Lanning carries his balls around with a forklift. 

The D needs some serious help.  There was hardly any pressure on Penix and when they got a hand on him there was no one to stop him as they dropped seven in coverage quite a bit.  Lupoi is more recruiter than guru so my guess is once they get better bodies on the line and in the secondary the results will improve.

That said, 8-2 this year feels a whole heckuva lot better than 9-1 last year.  The sky is the limit for this staff and program and if we have to sacrifice a couple games on rookie moves to get there so be it. 

Regarding UW, they finally have a serious dude at the helm with thick skin who will do things with that program and I think this is the restart of a serious rivalry…

 

11/13/2022 7:29 am  #3


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If Oregon beats Utah and osu they are in the Pac-12 Championship Game with the opportunity to go to the Rose Bowl.😁

Otherwise I can only surmise Lanning did not watch the tapes of the previous week with uw vs osu OR he did watch them and decided, "Maybe Jonathan Smith has something there with all his gadget and gimmick plays. I think I am going to do those too."

So disappointing he chose this game of all of them to go way outside his coaching lane of what he has done the previous 8 games this season. He completely wasted the first half of the game with cute stuff. Why?

 

11/13/2022 9:05 am  #4


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Duckball wrote:

Lanning and Dillingham got out coached tonight, plain and simple. 
Rookie coaches will make rookie mistakes, but multiple self-inflicted wounds are unacceptable. 

Why are we relying on cute, tricky gadget crap all of a sudden? I don't understand. We play straight-up football, we win that game. The weird formation/motion garbage at the goal line where we fumbled, the onsides kick, going for it on 4th down at our own 30 in a tied game with 1:41 on the clock with freaking Thompson in the game???? And these are just the 3 most glaring examples. REALLY hope Lanning and Dilly learn some lessons from this. DON'T F*** AROUND AND BLOW A RIVALRY GAME!!!!!!

Oh, and our defense is just bad. We were never going to have a snowballs chance at winning a game at the CFP with this defense. Is Lupoi a good DC?? I know we lack talent on that side of the ball, but have we improved much at all the last 8 games? Where is the coaching/teaching?

At least now we don't have to stress about CFP. Let's hope Nix is healthy and maybe we can get to the Pac12 Championship game. A Rose Bowl would still be a great accomplishment.

GO DUCKS!

I agree that our defense is not CFP worthy. Shoot!

 

11/13/2022 10:10 am  #5


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Swiss cheese defense takes no team anywhere, losing to the Fuskies is embarrassing and gives Utah and the Beavs a certified blue print to beating us .Lanning needs to man up and send Lupoi packing.

 

11/13/2022 10:19 am  #6


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One other thing-Our linebackers obviously cant read offenses.

 

11/13/2022 10:39 am  #7


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I am not a big fan of zone defense. With all our speed in the secondary, why not play man to man? No quarterback should throw for 400+ yards against the recruits we have. The areas 10 to 15 yards downfield were only occupied by receivers. Ducks must beat both Utah and the Beavs or else Washington would get in if they win the remaining games. They have 2 losses in the conference and would tie with the Ducks but would get in by virtue of the win yesterday. A win against Utah only would not do it.  

 

11/13/2022 10:48 am  #8


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Nice to see Lanning take ownership for the loss. 

A couple pointed questions about the defensive issues during press conference. I can really sense he is frustrated with that side of the ball even though he won't say it.

I'm looking forward to a bounce-back next week.

 

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11/13/2022 10:52 am  #9


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radar1 wrote:

Lanning needs to man up and send Lupoi packing.

I'm starting to wonder.....

     Thread Starter
 

11/13/2022 1:14 pm  #10


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I did not see Gonzalez out there after UW's first possession of the 2nd half. it was Bridges and Manning at the corners. Florence was unavailable or the coaches chose not to play him. did not see Bennett Williams in Q4, either. Addison made a couple of plays. Steve Stephens has been in the program four years now but is not living up to recruiting hype. 

Ducks appeared to be in full nickel/dime packages most of the 2nd half, and it didn't work. Penix played a great game, other than one bonehead decision that almost cost UW the game. our secondary and our pass-rush have been the weak spots all year, and we got exposed last night. that should set some priorities for recruiting and the transfer portal next season. last time our secondary was this bad was 2015, but Big Play VA made up the difference.

Ducks ultimately beat themselves. hands-to-face penalty that called back a long run to the UW 6, and so a TD became a FG. slamming the ball down Dawgs's gullet for 8 minutes and then a high snap on 2nd & 5 broke the mo. second play of final possession was a pass to Irving out of backfield that was going for some serious yardage, but he dropped it. a slip in the backfield on 4th & 1.

after 10 games, I'm still trying to determine what our red-zone strategy is. let Bo run? OK, that has worked out most of the year, but he's taking hits and we need something else. v BruCru they ran that 4th-down rollout with a low pass to Franklin that no NFL CB could have defended. where's Ferguson & the other TEs? where's the corner fade to our tall, 4-star WRs? I want to see more throws past the chains or into the end zone; not these dinks that get wrapped up five yards short.

tough loss, but Ducks control their destiny. I'm not optimistic v Utah; think we'll be underdogs in the sportsbooks (we deserve to be). but get a win there somehow, and I like the matchup w beavis. here's hoping any injuries from yesterday are minor & we are close to full-strength for Utes. can't wait to get home at 3 a.m. next weekend.

Go Ducks!
#ccm50

 

 

11/13/2022 1:32 pm  #11


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The irony of all the chirping about the defense or lack thereof is Lanning was / is a "defensive coach."

I always thought Herbert made Cristobal look better not vice versa. Maybe Georgia's defense made Lanning look better?

It is not like Oregon has zero talent. DC Jim Leavitt who was hired by Taggart, took the tattered remains of Oregon's 2016 defense (gave up 70 against the uw) when the Ducks were ranked 11th in the Pac-12 in Total Defense and in 2017 they were ranked 4th in the same category. Turnarounds and marked improvements can happen.

As well, after Leavitt departed, Andy Avalos came in and did a good job his first year as DC.

I don't watch games that closely but I kept looking for TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT as in rush 3 and drop 8; blitzes; have the front four do a more controlled pass rush with their hands up...ANYTHING that looked noticeably different...did  not see it happen.

Come on...Penix Jr leads the nation in passing, what did you think was going to happen in the game?

At the same time this is college football 2022...rules favor the offense. I watched Tennessee and Alabama march up and down the field and everyone thought it was a great game. The uw's defense wasn't anything to write home about either.

Oregon lost this game because of Lanning deciding he needed to break from the norm that got them to 8-1 and go with gadgets and gimmicks which unfortunately when they failed put the defense in very difficult situations.

So I put .5% of this on Lupoi and 99.5% on Lanning.

 

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