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Worst loss at home in 8-years!
To borrow the cliche... Altman has lost the team and the locker room.
It is barely the start of conference games and this is the way they play...in front of less than 6,000 people???
Something WILL happen...just a matter of when? Altman steps down during the season? Fired during the season? Resigns after last game? Fired after last game?
From the early years of his tenure he has always played a game of roulette with players transferring in and out in a revolving door roster...good players, bad apples, etc.
I think that approach has, after 13-years and at age 64...finally caught up with him.
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If it was just bad shooting and everyone was giving effort I could still respect the team and be interested in some level. I rather not waste my time to tune in and wonder if the team is going to try and play defense besides just missing shots.
The waning fan attendance has been happening for a while and even though they're not playing well 6,000 is pretty bad.
When it comes to basketball I have to admit I'm turning into a bit of a fair weather fan. I'll still read some on the team and tune in if I have absolutely else nothing to do, but that's about it. The NBA has been less interesting for me in recent times with players seemingly checking in the regular season and not even bothering to play when healthy in some occasions. I'm more interested in watching the former Ducks in the NFL playoffs than watching basketball.
@DR I would think Dana would get another year before they would really fire him I would think. His past success has probably bought him some time I would think.
Unlike football the 1 and done nature of top basketball recruits might just make it worth considering finding players that will be around for at least 3 years. Teams have had success with 5* recruits it's just that's not what has worked for Dana in that some of his best teams were consisting of scrappy players with at least a couple that had been around for a while. The past few years have had a lot of injuries it's a lot more than that though. Dana said it himself that with most of their players back they don't have that excuse. He's been honest in that much of the problem that past couple of years has been effort, which is a big hurdle to try and coach around.
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as others have posted, this team will go about as far as Will Richardson will take them; and that ain't lookin like very far right now. he is not a next-level player; Europe, maybe. he's wildly inconsistent. I don't read minds, (and I haven't had time to watch much this season), but he appears disengaged and unmotivated sometimes. not a quality you want in a senior leader.
Dana's teams have always been built on intensity & hustle, defense & rebounding. Elgin Cook, Dillon Brooks, Kenny Wooten. I remember Dillon more than once wading into the crowd after a game and going Full Hulk. even when the Ducks reached the pinnacle, that was the foundation and scoring (Tyler Dorsey, FastPP3) was the cherry-on-top.
tomorrow v Zona is a 'stripe-out'. might tune in briefly just to see what that looks like.
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Sigh.....
Anyone watch Dana's post game presser the other night? He really threw his team under the bus. Basically, said they give no effort. Took no personal blame for the state of the team. Is this what a good coach does? I mean some tough love is necessary at times, but how about looking in the damn mirror Dana!!
YOU RECRUITED AND CONSTRUCTED THIS TEAM!!!!
NO ONE TO BLAME HERE BUT YOURSELF!!!!!
Dana certainly won't get fired for another season or two. But watching him this last 3 years has me thinking he may be burning out and may call it quits himself?? There seems to be no more joy or enthusiasm.
That being said, I would not be shocked one bit if we beat Zona tomorrow. That's just how spastic this program is these days,
I'm actually going to the game tomorrow, so at the risk of showing my age, I gotta ask: What the hell is a "STRIPEOUT"??
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Maybe it is apples to oranges but perhaps Altman needs to borrow a page from his colleague Kelly Graves?!
Remember after last season Graves called out the team as acting entitled and not having accomplished anything...what was it...5 women transferred; Graves reconfigured the team and so far so good this season.
I have also read Tony Stubblefield leaving Oregon a couple of years ago after a decade has basically ended the "Canadian Connection" to recruiting.
Regardless, unless there is a major turnaround, SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE.
2-years ago Oregon was 14-4 in Conference play; last season 11-9 and so far this season 3-3...in present day vernacular, the Ducks are trending in the wrong direction.
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Surprised to hear Oregon was 14-4 two years ago. I remember that season as being real frustrating to watch just like these last two. I also know they HAD to win the conference tourney to get in the Big Dance and that's what they did. Nobody had them in the field of 64 before conference tourney. Pac12 must've been extremely weak that year as 14-4 would normally be a stellar resume. Also, out-of-conference record must've been dismal?
So, in my mind the decline began in '20-'21 season. That also coincides with the beginning of the Will Richardson era as PG. Coincidence?
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Called it.
We'll probably turn around and lose to Cal and Stanford next week lol.
On a positive note, Cuisinard and Dante had monster games. Was fun to watch.
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Duckball wrote:
Called it.
We'll probably turn around and lose to Cal and Stanford next week lol.
On a positive note, Cuisinard and Dante had monster games. Was fun to watch.
Good call! Now you need to attend every game to keep them playing like that.
That was a fun one and I haven't seen the Ducks look like that all year.
Let's hope they can keep it up. Last year they played good like this once and a while giving me a false sense of hope that they might have just turned the corner.
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Called it.
We'll probably turn around and lose to Cal and Stanford next week lol.
On a positive note, Cuisinard and Dante had monster games. Was fun to watch.Good call! Now you need to attend every game to keep them playing like that.
That was a fun one and I haven't seen the Ducks look like that all year.
Let's hope they can keep it up. Last year they played good like this once and a while giving me a false sense of hope that they might have just turned the corner.
Lol yeah.
But yes, that's the problem with Oregon the last few years: Maddening inconsistency.
Getting all our guards back healthy is only going to help going forward. The extra bodies also allow us to be able to press more on defense which has always been the hallmark of our good teams from the past.
Hope springs eternal, but I'm not convinced of a turnaround yet. Get a sweep this week and I may feel differently.
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