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a deep dive from the NYT; think everybody should be able to read w/o an acct . . .
the world certainly has changed. for many years I was able to add my yearly DAF contri to my Sked A as an itemized deduction. that went away about 5 years ago. but the high-rollers who fund the collectives that pay million$ in NIL get a deduction.
the article poses the question "who really runs 'college' football?" and answers it.
“It’s the most important thing in college football,” said Kyle Whittingham, the head coach at the University of Utah. This month, Utah’s Crimson Collective announced that every scholarship football player will be able to drive a new $61,000 Dodge truck at no cost.
“It’s the most important thing in recruiting, which is the most important thing to your program,” Mr. Whittingham said.
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OldMacManaic wrote:
a deep dive from the NYT; think everybody should be able to read w/o an acct . . .
the world certainly has changed. for many years I was able to add my yearly DAF contri to my Sked A as an itemized deduction. that went away about 5 years ago. but the high-rollers who fund the collectives that pay million$ in NIL get a deduction.
the article poses the question "who really runs 'college' football?" and answers it.
“It’s the most important thing in college football,” said Kyle Whittingham, the head coach at the University of Utah. This month, Utah’s Crimson Collective announced that every scholarship football player will be able to drive a new $61,000 Dodge truck at no cost.
“It’s the most important thing in recruiting, which is the most important thing to your program,” Mr. Whittingham said.
Paywall for me. What is surprising to me is Coach Whittingham's take on recruiting and NIL. Utah rarely has a highly ranked recruiting class, but they are great at identifying the type of player who fits their system. It helps having the stability of the same coach for years, imo. Looks like Coach Whit is joining the recruiting wars in a big way. A new Dodge.Wow 
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A friend sent me a link to the same article, but it’s on Yahoo! So no paywall:
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“I don’t want you discussing or comparing notes with the guy who dresses in the locker next to you,” Schoemann said. “This could deteriorate a locker room instantly.”
This is what worries and makes me cringe the most about NIL: The secretive and non-public shadiness of the payments. Guys being jealous of teammates who flout or brag of their riches. A cancer to team building.
I'm all for players getting a cut of the profits. It's been long overdue. But let's get it out in the open and regulate this crap!
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The single biggest whiff in NCAA history was to ignore the Northwestern football attempt to unionize a number of years ago. That was the window for the NCAA to create a compensation/stipend program for all athletes in all sports based on some sort of national revenue sharing model, ensuring players at Alabama and Akron were stipended the same amount as "independent contractors." This could have been tied to a limited transfer portal and also tied to basketball to eliminate the one-and-done model.
This might not be a perfect model, but it would certainly allow the perception that the NCAA/Universities were meeting the student-athletes in the middle.
Instead, the NCAA steps back and lets the boosters pay the players and the tv networks to align the conferences.
Big fu-king mess that has jaded many and created a competitive imbalance requiring a new model for CFB for the top 40-50 programs that operate profitable athletic departments. The genie is out of the bottle so yeah, time to regulate but without the NCAA involved...
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1) Football itself is a challenge in part because the College Football Playoff is NOT and NCAA Championship like all other collegiate sports...yet as everyone knows, football pays the bills for the other teams.
2) It is the Wild West for sure right now but the LAST entity on the planet I want involved in anything remotely related to "managing" the NIL issues for colleges is the NCAA🤮
When has the NCAA EVER operated with fairness, transparency, efficiently, effectively and in a timely manner?
To have an "association" overseeing these collectives and the millions of dollars...THAT would be the death of college sports.
3) Who can force colleges to pivot quickly? It is noted in the article...the IRS...like it or not...they can, in a decision or two, bring more changes to the collectives than the NCAA could ever hope to do in the next century. The IRS changes behaviors.
4) Personally as one example, I think Oregon playing Portland State or rather PSU "having" to play Oregon in order to fund their athletic department is far more damaging to college sports than an NIL collective. Those one-sided massacres all over college football do nothing to make the sport better.
If we can figure out a way to pay athletes(albeit fueled by a Supreme Court decision) then with the millions of $$$ in college sports revenues, we can figure out how to pay the Portland States of the world🙏
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