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I don't think anybody expects this to be much of a contest. put the game out-of-reach early and get the 2s & 3s plenty of reps in the 2nd half, esp at QB and TB.
I will be watching what Stein has planned in the run game v Sparky's D-line. Ducks did not do well between the tackles v SC and Bear Alexander, esp on 3rd-&-short or 4th-&-short. but they made some hay at the edges using the TEs, like on Bucky's TD run to start Q4. if we keep winning, we'll be facing some stout D-lines. no time like the present to install some new plays.
this is the only boring P-12 game this weekend. Utes-Zona has P-12 championship implications. the Crosstown is dripping w back-stories. Cal can get to 6-6 & bowl-eligible w a win over Furd and then BruCru. and Pullman is Deion last chance for a W, and to avoid a 1-8 finish. what could be better than a 7:30 Friday night Prime Time game in Pullman, WA?
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Every article I have ever read concerning going for it on 4th down mentions "analytics" as an argument in support of it.🙄
A couple of weeks ago on the Pat McAfee Show, Nick Saban discussed this issue...
1) What the analytics DON'T mention is what happens if you DON'T succeed?
2) The analytics DON'T factor in field position.
3) A failed 4th down effort is the same as a turnover and the average point value on turnovers is 3+ plus points(yep field goals)
4) The analytics DON'T factor in the playcall and WHO had the ball. Your best player?
Analytics are far from a guarantee of success.
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The only thing I am confident of at this point is that Lanning is staying at Oregon for at least the next season. Along with him staying, we will see great recruiting, assistants being coached up, wins, and yes, analytics. That means high risk/high reward playcalling whether on fourth down or on special teams. Â
While I am hopeful that UO can put away ASU with relative ease, I am also hopeful that they stay healthy for Civil War because OSU is going to bring the house against UO. They are the "woman scorned" with a huge chip on their shoulder and JSmith will have that team fired up for what will be the last game in the continual series. That leaves no margin for error with every playcall under a microscope. I'm sure we will all have more to say on this after this Saturday and all next week...
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Jiffy Jeff wrote:
The only thing I am confident of at this point is that Lanning is staying at Oregon for at least the next season. Along with him staying, we will see great recruiting, assistants being coached up, wins, and yes, analytics. That means high risk/high reward playcalling whether on fourth down or on special teams. Â
While I am hopeful that UO can put away ASU with relative ease, I am also hopeful that they stay healthy for Civil War because OSU is going to bring the house against UO. They are the "woman scorned" with a huge chip on their shoulder and JSmith will have that team fired up for what will be the last game in the continual series. That leaves no margin for error with every playcall under a microscope. I'm sure we will all have more to say on this after this Saturday and all next week...
Well said, a lot of folks are picking the Bears to upset the Huskies this weekend.
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Beavis is a slight fav in several sportsbooks. OS has a veteran & talented O-line, and quality TBs. they can use the run game to control the ToP (ASU did, UO did) and keep Penix off the field. Beavs will need to finish w TDs when they get in the red zone; DJ Uggs has been inconsistent this year, and that led to losses at Wazzu and Zona.
Ducks need to root for a UW win, so that a W in the P-12 championship game over undefeated Dawgs has enough weight to carry UO into the playoff.
some people think Beavs might be deflated for the CW, either by a L to UW or by a Zona W v Utes that blocks OS's path to a P-12 championship game. I doubt it. I expect Beavis to bring everything on Nov 24. should be an epic final CW.
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